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Ric, Thanks for leaving your comment. You're ...

2011-06-10T03:02:35.849-04:00

Ric,

Thanks for leaving your comment. You're correct, supporting traditional marriage is a statement against gay marriage. My point is the supporting traditional marriage is not anti-gay.

Also, since plenty of straight couples get married with other or no faiths, I disagree that religious freedoms have been violated. Congress shall make no law respecting the establish of religion or to prohibit its free exercise.

Lastly, you evoke Christ's name as if His example isn't followed. Christ spoke of following the laws of the land and respect those in authority over you.

Ultimately, marriage is both a state issue & a Biblical issue. For many, sadly, it's only a state issue. And voters have rejected the concept of gay marriage. The Bible doesn't support gay marriage. But not supporting gay marriage doesn't mean that gays aren't deserving of Christ's love. Gay marriage is being sought as a right and an entitlement. It simply is not. But Jesus loves us all...right where we are...but He loves us enough to not allow us to remain the same.

Rick, I acknowledge that the fallout of the Chic...

2011-06-06T09:17:53.930-04:00

Rick,

I acknowledge that the fallout of the Chick-Fil-A created a lot of rhetoric and angry words. Ignoring this (inevitable) fallout for a moment though, the choice to support or help Traditional Marriage is a statement against gay marriage.

Being against gay marriage within a church is one thing. Being against gay marriage as a state is a whole 'nother can of worms. Enacting laws that impose a Christian (Traditional is simply a PC terms here) worldview upon everyone in the state contradicts the freedom of religion right in the constitution. A top-down imposition of a Christian/Traditional belief is also contrary to the example of Christ.

Anonymous, thanks for your thoughts. I firmly beli...

2011-03-04T12:43:23.918-05:00

Anonymous, thanks for your thoughts. I firmly believe that one's environment does condition their worldview. Plus, if one trusts in Christ, their worldview should align with His teachings. This can produce a battle over what's faith and what's flesh.

Racism does exist. Birds of a feather tend to flock together. Always have and always will. The problem is when one flock chooses to think it's better than the other for whatever reason. This we must get beyond. Slowly but surely.

I really enjoyed this article and the comments. Pa...

2011-03-04T12:04:33.017-05:00

I really enjoyed this article and the comments. Pain and suffering does cloud perception and when offended we can easily get carried away. Ppl can say racism doesn't exist anymore it does. The same for all the other isms that discriminate against a specific group.

Wow there are so many errors in your statement, I&...

2011-02-25T12:28:43.000-05:00

Wow there are so many errors in your statement, I'll have to address them one at a time.

"We don't deserve everything"
First off we are not asking for everything. We are asking for the same CIVIL rights as straight people you are comparing rights you already have to a mansion, 2 cars, and a million dollars. If you cannot see that civil rights and the things you stated are not equal then there is no point to this debate as you have a scewed view of the world.

"I also disagree that homosexuality is a not a choice"
Except that every major credited psychological and medical authority says otherwise. You do not choose who you are attracted to. At what point in your childhood did you choose to whom you are attracted? Studies have already shown that homosexuality is not a choice.

I disagree with your assessment of NOM and Focus on the Family. Admittedly, I'm more familiar with Focus and they are not a hate group. When a group is conducting verbal or physical violence against another, they deserve to be called a hate group. Westboro Baptist - that's a hate group.

Leaders of NOM and Focus on the Family have compared the gay community to pedophiles and criminals. They push laws that allow us to be fired for our sexual orientation and even get kicked out of places we rent. They push for school policies that ignore the existence of gay people and futher increase the hardships of LGBTQ teens. If anything the Phelps family church you speak of are less of a hate group because they don't activly seek legislation that discriminates a minority. They also arn't two faced, they say they hate us, while focus on the family and NOM say they love us while they push for legal discrimination. Telling someone you love them while you try and take away their civil rights is down right sick.

I hope that one day you too can understand what the gay community goes through. To say that I choose to be gay, means that I choose to be discriminated against, that I choose to be bullied almost to the point of suicide by my peers, family, and church, that I choose to hide who I was until recently, that I choose to have no meaningful relationship up until now, that I choose to be afraid to walk in certain parts of town. If you cannot see the pain and suffering that groups like NOM and focus on the family inflict on my community, I hope that someday you will.

-Bryce

Bryce, thanks for sharing your views. We've be...

2011-02-25T01:54:39.770-05:00

Bryce, thanks for sharing your views. We've become a society that feels entitled to everything and anytime. So, my first thought is that no group is good enough to have everything. We don't deserve everything. Everyone shouldn't have a mansion, 2 cars, and a million dollars in the bank.

I also disagree that homosexuality is a not a choice. While I'm attracted to women, I chose to date few women, chose not to have pre-marital sex, chose to get marriage, chose to be willing to be a parent and was blessed to become one, and choose to love my family daily. I could've chosen the opposite to all of these things.

I understand what you want...freedom to get married whether you want to or not. That's not my definition of marriage and appears to not be how marriage is defined in the Bible. Could I and many others be misinterpreting the Scriptures? That's certainly possible. However, I've yet to see it. If one doesn't believe in God, Jesus Christ, or the Bible - there's bigger concerns than having the freedom to marry whom I choose.

I disagree with your assessment of NOM and Focus on the Family. Admittedly, I'm more familiar with Focus and they are not a hate group. When a group is conducting verbal or physical violence against another, they deserve to be called a hate group. Westboro Baptist - that's a hate group.

I agree with your comments on maturity. None of us will know everything about anything or anybody. We cannot, however, paint everything gray. Truth is black and white, yes or no, one or zero. Sometimes, however, we can cloud truth through our own perceptions.

"My references to anti-straight are directed ...

2011-02-24T14:50:17.654-05:00

"My references to anti-straight are directed at anyone who wishes to say that promoting traditional marriage is anti-gay."

There are tons of straight people who don't promote traditional marriage as well. We are not anti-straight we are pro-equality, pro-facts, and anti-bigotry.

There is no sound logic, you are telling one group...

2011-02-24T14:01:28.337-05:00

There is no sound logic, you are telling one group that they are not good enough to have everything you have because of something they do not choose. I did not state that it is goal of everyone to get married, the goal is to be allowed to if you so choose. We have already been shown that "Separate is not Equal" in Brown vs. the Board of Education. I am not assuming every gay person wants to get married, I sure don't plan on getting married any time soon. What I want is equality under the law. These pro-traditional marriage groups do not support equality or tollerance, they spread hate and lies about the LGBT community. I don't know how much you know about NOM or Focus on the Family, but they are anti-gay hate groups. They push for laws that discriminate against gays in the workplace, housing, and economics. Maturity is not only disagreeing with someone and still loving them, it is being able to understand that they themselves are not always right. It is the ability to take in the facts and make a sound conclution. History will show who is in the "right" here, hopefully in my lifetime.

Anonymous, thanks for sharing your thoughts here. ...

2011-02-18T00:12:41.435-05:00

Anonymous, thanks for sharing your thoughts here. You're missing the point of my sound logic. You're specifically focused on gay marriage as the basis for some being anti-gay. Thus, if one disagrees with gay marriage, they must be anti-gay. That's foolish. When did it become the goal of every gay couple to get married? This isn't the goal of every hetero couple. Plus, I know gay couples who are friends and have no interest in being married.

My references to anti-straight are directed at anyone who wishes to say that promoting traditional marriage is anti-gay. It's pro-traditional marriage. Your line of reasoning likely assumes that if one disagrees with another's choices, then they can't be friends or love one another. Wrong. Maturity is disagreeing with one or two things but still loving all the rest that makes up the person.

"So, if an organization promotes traditional ...

2011-02-17T13:19:07.646-05:00

"So, if an organization promotes traditional family or traditional marriage they are anti-gay. If that's true, what these advocacy groups are saying is that by promoting gay family and gay marriage they are anti-straight. So, is that acceptable? Is it permissible to be anti-heterosexual but not to be anti-gay?"

"Traditional family" and "Traditonal marriage" supporters are preventing Gay couples from getting married so it is anti-gay. While gay marriage does not stop straight people from getting married so it is NOT antt-straight. You are using some weird logic to justify your argument.

As with all grassroots movements, the people behin...

2011-02-15T16:18:54.554-05:00

As with all grassroots movements, the people behind them will always seize ANY opportunity to bring their cause into the conversation. Sure, this is a ridiculous and overblown reaction by gay rights advocates, but it is exactly what I'd expect from any grassroots movement. This is how they ALL operate. It's marketing. The point is to get free press for their cause.

There was a similar uproar a few years ago when the National Down Syndrome Congress and the Special Olympics came out against the movie Tropic Thunder. In that case, those organizations were either too ignorant to see that the "retard" stereotype featured in the film was actually targeting the exploitative use of "retard" characters in movies to garner awards and such -OR- they chose to ignore that all together and simply use the film as a launching pad to get their cause into the press. In that case, as with the Chick-fil-A "anti-gay" controversy, I believe it to be the latter.